What do you think will be the fate of classic mods and rebuildable atomizers? It’s clear that quite a few manufacturers are now focusing almost exclusively on simpler pod systems, and the new generation doesn’t want to bother with wicking and coils anymore.
Do you think manufacturers will completely switch over, and regulated devices will become niche products forever, like “old-school” relics? Or will they never completely abandon the RTA market?
I really hope there will always be demand for quality and control, but I also can’t imagine manufacturers pushing a category that yields them significantly less profit.
I think that generation who switched from analog cigarettes are best at searching for and finding similarities. For concentrates and organic options, the DIY approach is natural due to economic reasons and the possibilities for variation.
For the new generation, due to convenience and a lack of previous pleasures, expectations couldn’t form; it’s just a status symbol, blowing clouds, and even getting used to subpar flavors and devices due to the lack of a frame of reference.
No young person likes robust beers, but they do like the so-called strawberry, lemonade syrups…
What you’re writing is very true. But is there a way back, or is it more of a step beyond the convenience offered by pods?
I mean by this that of course, if one uses specific liquids as you also alluded to, then an RTA/RDA setup is economically better, but for the average user (of whom there might be more), it might just be perfect for them. If there’s no demand for the more advanced level, then the manufacturer is also unlikely to push it.
I personally experienced a period when I only vaped pods for about 2 months, and afterwards, it was even a minor challenge for me to re-wick/re-coil etc… Not because I had forgotten, just because of the convenience. This might be for someone who only vapes pods and hasn’t even tried the other [setup], it would be even harder to convince themselves to go for the more laborious route.
Honestly, I don’t know where this world is heading, but I believe there will always be demand for RTAs! Quality, appearance, precision - that’s what an RTA is!! I vaped with pod systems for a year, but I can’t imagine doing it again!
There is a way back, but not for everyone, and supply and other circumstances will also influence it. Perhaps a segment will have a demand for flavors, for tinkering. It’s like cooking nowadays. Many people eat nonstop fast food, delivery meals. But a segment doesn’t give up on cooking, eating old, traditional, unique dishes.
I will never have a 60,000-puff neon-colored setup, I doubt it, I’ll go back sooner…
I don’t think there’s really a way back. Public taste can be shaped and refined through information, pressure, and by appealing to vanity, say, in the culinary field or in the realm of beers or wines, but this is inconceivable for tobacco products and devices.
Young people online, recognizing the risks of ‘disposables’, might feel targeted and perhaps switch at the anticipated price point, which, for commercial products, carries the possibility of disappointment… This is not to suggest that only high-end is the favorite… There are certainly good and usable devices at a low price point; the question is whether that’s what they encounter first.
If this is how it turns out, what is it largely thanks to? The very smart, gatekeeper-backed ‘propaganda’ restrictions, making things impossible, and in parallel, the emergence of shoddy, unchecked, fake, illicitly traded goods. Because it’s true that those who are interested unfortunately choose from the available offerings… they hardly see any normal alternatives.
(Convenience also overrides quality, which is also a big shame… atomizers and the like, ready-made ‘tasty’ tobacco shop e-liquids).
Smoking, cigar smoking, and pipe smoking are a ritualistic, joyful, and self-rewarding activity.
In the past, there were cigar and pipe rooms where thinkers would retreat after dinner to evaluate world events. A considered answer to a posed question was always preceded by packing a pipe, thus gaining temporal respite for the considered answer or opinion.
If the sole consideration is a bad habit, a substitute action, and getting enough nicotine, then the meticulous enjoyment we derive from it – reaping the rewards of a quiet, flavorful coil build and wicking – truly has no place.
We do all this because we have grasped and feel the harm and stench of real tobacco, cigarette paper, and tar…
I must add to my journey: if I hadn’t found Vaperina, I wouldn’t have reached the RTA, but would have gone back to puffing on stink sticks!! I never liked it; the pod just didn’t satisfy me for some reason!! So, thanks to Vaperina, and to the members who helped! It took a lot of patience!! This is my way of pointing out how important Vaperina and similar forums are!!
I hope it will stay because there is demand for it. Experienced users like new things, and if the product is skillfully presented and designed, there will always be buyers for it.
Furthermore, these disposable devices are currently at the absolute peak of popularity, for which there is clearly demand. But what if a more serious political action occurs (which I hope will happen soon) in which there will be zero tolerance towards these Chinese poisons, then perhaps they will open the way for products sold in the EU. Then the “gate” will open again, during which a few old-timers can make their way back into the world of rebuilding.
Anyway, this building fun was a huge struggle for me to come to terms with everything. It took me 6 years to acquire the suitable and satisfying DIY kits for me. I thought the experience couldn’t be enhanced further from here, but fortunately, I managed to polish it a bit to maintain the enthusiasm for vaping dormant within me. Not much excites me anymore, but there are still new things that can get me excited.
A little over two years ago, I quit traditional cigarettes and switched to vaping. My first vape was a Vaporesso Sky Solo Plus, which I was very happy with! I started with 12mg liquid in DL, because where I bought the device, they recommended this strength of liquid to replace 1 pack of blue Sofi a day, without asking if it was MTL or DL. The fruity liquid was strange with coffee, but I slowly got used to it. I missed analog a bit, but I haven’t smoked a single one since. There was no problem with the flavors, but this amount of nicotine really hit me hard in DL. There were also issues with the Sky Solo, leaking, running out of battery quickly, etc., and at that time, it was my only device. But I kept researching, looking for the right device and solutions for me, and found my way to the Vaperina community here. I found and received answers to many questions. Slowly, I switched from pre-made coil tanks to rebuildables, RTA, RDA, squonk, AIO, etc. I also used pre-made coil devices occasionally on the side. I tried many things, which I think you all know, as I regularly shared with you and asked many questions. I also tried MTL, but it still doesn’t appeal to me (perhaps because I didn’t have a successful experience ). I don’t need the super big clouds anymore, like I used to think was cool. Now, the RDL style is what satisfies my vaping. I’ve also put away my Argus pods for a month now, which I only used at work, and instead, I take an AIO with me, as it’s quite compact, and I don’t have to be as careful with it as with my other gear. So I believe that whoever wants to and is interested, whether they are lazy or not, will progress, and whoever has taken this path will stick to rebuildable devices as long as they can! This is how demand for these devices will be created!
I haven’t tried it, you guys let me know beforehand! There was one, I got it from somewhere, I think I sent it to Zoli76 as a gift!! I knew he’d like it!
This is my way of pointing out how important Vaperina and similar forums are!!
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