đŸ‡«đŸ‡· The French vape market is in danger – and with it the future of European vapers!

That’s quite a number
. :roll_eyes: (It’s not bad even in forints :roll_eyes:)

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Going nicely and slowly :slightly_smiling_face:

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Nearly 70 million people live in that country, so if I had to guess, this is quite low. For instance, I haven’t seen a petition yet that had any consequence, but hope is the last thing to die!

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I also think this 100K+ signature count is too low, considering how many people vape! :sad_but_relieved_face:

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I would like to protest. They will stand up to the government. For example, because of gasoline, alcohol, cigarettes, pensions. There were huge protests for all of those issues. Just 10 days ago, there were protests against austerity measures. Since jobs will be eliminated due to Article 23, there will continue to be many disturbances.

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As far as I know, there is no mention of a protest.

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Signed, plus a small donation was sent, hopefully it reaches more people.

It is definitely worth a try.

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For now, regarding this. There are no exact figures, only approximate numbers: 3000 jobs, 3500 stores, 20000 workers. But these are just base numbers :person_shrugging:. Let’s look at it this way, it has plenty of associated numbers too. Raw material producers, specifically base aroma producers, logistics sectors. Layoffs could extend to 60-75,000 people.

10 days was a typo on my part.

Viewed this way, it is conceivable that it will continue.

France faced significant riots and clashes nationwide on Thursday, when hundreds of thousands took to the streets to protest the new austerity measures – writes Euronews. The initially peaceful demonstrations in the streets of Paris escalated into violent clashes between the police and protesters, while significant disruptions were also experienced in other parts of the country.

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Unfortunately yes, the big fish always swim ahead.

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Greetings everyone. Signed.

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An interesting blog about why so few people signed the petition. :backhand_index_pointing_down:

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There is plenty of truth in it. :expressionless_face:

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Great writing.. unfortunately this is an accurate summary of the Hungarian vaper or rather this cigarette/vaping society
 Exactly here on Vaperina we experience this too
 Are we 20-30 people? We are the minority who enjoy the Vapors..

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Hi everyone!

Every market manipulation starts with making something impossible, followed by acquisition.

We are witnessing this now. It is being introduced slowly, cautiously sounding out public sentiment, but with sure steps, threatened with some punitive retaliation, dosed in small legal increments—a regulatory system that allows bypassing the previously jointly established EU laws granting freedom of manufacturing and trade.

If a power wishes to take over a business sector and steer it towards a similar state monopoly, like tobacco products, it will do so, and several thousand signatures will not prevent it. It’s big business, and it doesn’t matter if it’s cigarettes or something else; the price and excise tax should be the same.

I think those renowned flavor manufacturers and hardware manufacturers who see it as better to close shop, or suspend production and cut off European resellers, have a better perspective.

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The constant complaining that “there is no community” or “no cohesion” can easily become a self-fulfilling prophecy!

It would be great to present our future right now, but unfortunately, we don’t have the opportunity to do so. However, I can promise one thing: we will create that certain breakthrough where we can actually talk about a global Community. :vaperina:

For this, it is essential that we are not just passive consumers, but actively participate in building and protecting the community. It’s not just easy access that matters, but also that we are able to effectively represent and unite our interests. Because this is what is needed! :vaperina: Perseverance! :flexed_biceps:

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My opinion is that if we are

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A power, a country that collects taxes will never be an enemy of products burdened with excise tax, from which it derives revenue. The path to achieving their goals is misleading for many, suggesting that you have a say, that your fate is in your hands.

The guardians of order also fine and collect money if your seatbelt is not fastened because they “care about your physical well-being”—do we experience the same caring concern in healthcare?

It matters greatly whether You are the one paying, or You are the one costing money


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I notice that often, even in an existing community, all you hear is that there is no community. But this is only said after something has disrupted the communities. And this something is continuous pessimism, which leads exactly here!

I think we shouldn’t necessarily focus on what we cannot change, but on what moves us forward! Vaperina is about this! That as long as we are here and indulging in a common hobby, this is a community! But as soon as it turns into “dread,” for which there are unfortunately plenty of examples elsewhere, dreams immediately fall apart and articles like the one you linked above are born. What is lacking is perseverance!

We should realize that we live in this, in this community that is constantly moving forward! Many people are counting on you! We are counting on you too!

And it also matters whether someone is merely purchasing, or willing to join one of the (even foreign) communities. Because the 4,000,000 people mentioned in the article are not yet vapers, they just bought something that they might not refill once they run out


You won’t read an article like the one above from me, because as long as this many of us are here, as long as this many of us are moving in the same direction, we must not give up!

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Dear Kinga and Donåt, I really needed these thoughts that you wrote down right now. Reading what @Helomi78 Péter shared, I became very sad. Thank you both very much! :hugs:

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I’m sorry that the blog I linked saddened you. My goal with it was to draw attention to the fact that the vaping community also needs to stick together to achieve its goals! So nothing :sad_but_relieved_face: but :grin::rocket::dashing_away::dashing_away::dashing_away:!

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