Vaperina Petition - For the science-based reform of e-cigarette regulation!

Obviously, finding or training a skilled person is no longer the problem, but rather finding someone with the proper qualifications.

This is an important business aspect! But look at it from the other side. The qualification doesn’t aim to reduce the workforce, but to qualify it.

Currently, there are many professional vapers who would gladly work in a vape shop if there were an opportunity. For them, this exam would just be a quick formality.

And if you find an enthusiastic applicant who isn’t yet an expert, they could start working shortly after targeted training.

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I still don’t understand why special training would be needed besides expertise? My example above: in a multinational for food or DIY, the salesperson doesn’t have 237 papers, no nail industry and chicken-innards OKÉ exams. Manufacturers need to have their permits, and the salesperson should have affinity and insight. Whoever sells e-liquid doesn’t have a tobacco industry technical school diploma either. So it’s pointless to pursue this line of argument. The local vape shop clerk isn’t a pulmonologist either (more like OnlyFans… :thinking::sweat_smile:). They learn, develop, are helpful, apply their knowledge, navigate online, keep up with trends, treat people well - that’s the essence.

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I don’t understand it either, and that’s precisely my problem: the petition wants to negotiate such a capability.

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Yes, this part is confusing. :slightly_smiling_face:

It’s important due to vape’s current perception!..plus, if a layperson interested comes in, they shouldn’t experience the same level of expertise as in the national tobacconists.

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Because we need to improve the perception of vaping, not worsen it further. This could ensure that advice is genuinely sought from someone who wants to quit and who truly understands it.

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This slows down entry into employment (time to acquire qualifications) and makes hiring difficult. In my opinion, it would be better if the business owner could decide who to hire and with what experience, but this is just my opinion. I got the answer to my question, thank you.

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Compared to what would it slow down?.. because it is currently still banned. Demand would create opportunity… and those interested would immediately take advantage of it… it will last as long as its administrative side does.

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I really don’t think a 6-month course should be necessary, I’ll say it again :slightly_smiling_face: but MédiaMárk also doesn’t hire for their technical department someone who’s never even been shocked by electricity and watches government info on a slide projector. I think a test could be the solution, and besides, the idiots, the lazy, and the rude are already screened out by the job market…

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Anyone who has had a business or perhaps run a shop knows that one of the hardest things is finding suitable employees. Well, I’m not sure I’d want to make that process any harder. For example, if I need to hire someone quickly, I wouldn’t be happy about having to send them to another course on top of the training period before they can start working.

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I think there are many here on Vaperina who would gladly obtain this professional qualification. When the opportunity arises, feel free to post here that you are hiring. :crossed_fingers:

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It’s the same elsewhere. I had buses, and even a D license wasn’t enough for them to work for me… some training or knowledge wouldn’t hurt.

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It’s still early to talk about this, but I, for example, would start such a business myself.
And if it took off, then I would look for knowledgeable, dedicated, qualified salespeople.

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However, if the government were to even consider the topic, then a better alternative than the wild west of vaping in the 2010s must be submitted… so there’s something for them to authorize that they otherwise really didn’t want until then.

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The tobacco racket will be dismantled, the question remains in what form the market will be liberalized. In my opinion, we must articulate the demands and experiences; the regulatory framework is the task of the legislator.

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Anyway, that’s our plan: if this proves functional, for Vaperina to also operate as a hub where vape shops in the country would be accessible and we connect on some level… We’ll see, it won’t be for lack of trying on our part.

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Other hubs work too :heart_eyes: why not this one too :ok_hand:

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Hi everyone.

We can talk about many things here. About sellers, or about America. This article is from 2020. Read it, then let’s ask our French friends (we also signed for them), or the Germans, to give it weight. This is a step. Let’s start climbing it.

Sincerely.

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Hi :waving_hand:

[quote=“Pál Kocsán, post:179, topic:77109, username:Pal_Kocsan”]let’s ask our French friends
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This can be a double-edged sword.

On one hand, international support clearly shows that the issue of Hungarian regulation is not confined to Hungary and that the European vape community is also paying attention to it.

On the other hand, if a significant portion of the signatures comes from abroad, it can weaken the petition’s credibility and it can easily be said that it is not a real domestic demand, but external pressure.

What can be used very well, however, is international professional support. E.g.: declarations of solidarity, position statements.


The country selection is fundamentally not for gathering signatures from abroad, but rather to show where the support comes from.

This is important for two reasons:

  • firstly, Hungarian signatories, who are directly affected, can be treated separately,
  • secondly, it becomes visible if there is international attention or solidarity behind the topic.

Naturally, domestic support is the strongest argument for policymakers, but international backing can add supplementary weight if handled well.

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