Has anyone else experienced this kind of irritation?

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I’ve already read about metal allergies and PG allergies, but I found less about this: from certain liquids, within 1-2 days, I turn into the late Hegedűs Zsuzsa.

About two months ago, I switched from roll-up cigarettes, and unfortunately, I’ve tried quite a lot of liquids. Here’s the situation: with certain flavors, I’m completely fine, while with others, I feel terrible. There’s no allergic reaction, although I do have allergies, mainly to dust, dust mites, and pollen. Nothing on my skin, no itching. I’m using an Innokin Kroma Z with a 0.8 ohm atomizer.

Initially, I thought PG was the culprit, but I guess if I were sensitive to it, I wouldn’t have been able to vape 70% PG liquids for weeks. :smiley: There was one weekend when I vaped quite a lot, thinking I overdid it. Of course, it dried me out, but when I thought I was getting sick, I looked into it, and it was probably the Pulp caramel liquid bothering me. Practically every morning, I woke up with a dried-out, yellow, bloody mucus complex in my nose. Changed the coil, new liquid, ditched the caramel, higher VG ratio, great. It went away.

Since then, I’ve vaped two Liquideo GangMangs without any problems (50-50), and then the 60PG-40VG raspberry (framboyz or something like that, I’ve already thrown it out :)) managed to produce very similar symptoms in less than 48 hours: my throat became completely dry, I swear a rough festival night in the dust with 60 cigarettes didn’t cause this, even though that’s the hardcore Hegedűs Zsuzsa effect. My throat is scratchy, I constantly think I’ve caught a cold, while my voice is in a worse condition than a drunk chain-smoker’s after a night out. I have no spare coils left, I’m going to throw this one out too, and then a new one will arrive eventually. It’s also terrible to vape, like a metal bristle brush is rubbing my throat.

I doubt the 60% PG content is the issue; could it be that certain aromas irritate me to this extent? The super-smart ChatGPT told me to avoid caramel, vanilla, nuts, coffee, etc., everything sweet/dessert-like. Okay. So should I avoid fruit too? Or berries? I had no problem with Pulp peach, cantaloupe, grapefruit, they were all okay. I haven’t tried menthol yet. Does this mean I should choose much more carefully? Well, now I’m going to go and buy a pack of cigarettes.

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Hi! I’ve never heard of that before, the device doesn’t seem bad either, especially if you’ve been smoking “regular” cigarettes until now.

Everyone likes something different, but for those who have smoked until now and have just started vaping, I usually recommend the Argus G2 mini with a 0.7 ohm, 3 ml pod, because it brings out the flavors very nicely, and the 0.7 is exactly the pod that doesn’t consume the liquid quickly and provides the vapor that many expect at first.

I never mix liquids myself, I always vape nic salt, because nic salt doesn’t “scratch” like freebase nicotine can. The small 10 ml pre-made nic salt liquids come in many flavors, although they can be more expensive than mixing them yourself, but I was able to quit all kinds of cigarettes, IQOS, and others almost immediately and only vape these pod vapes, even though I have asthma and they don’t cause any side effects at all. I’ve tried many others besides the Argus, and I like them, but this setup with shortfills and nic salts worked for me, maybe you could try one like this too? Because what you’re saying is very strange.
I usually vape 20 mg liquids, but some people get headaches from that and switch to 10 mg, or if they mix short/longfills, they only increase it to 6 mg. :face_with_monocle:

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I recently ordered 5mg liquid online.

I haven’t been coughing for a while, the smoke itself doesn’t scratch, it was very strange to get used to at first. PG noticeably dries you out: but is 60pg/40vg really that harsh? The caramel completely clogged my nose in 2 days, this raspberry/forest fruit mix totally messed up my throat, even though I only vape about 100-200 puffs MAX per day. 10-12mg freebase nicotine… Shortfills are much better priced online, maybe I’ll try them in the new year. An order was supposed to arrive, but it’s stuck, unfortunately. I just put a little 50-50 booster and Pulp Melon in my Aspire Vilter 2, this scratches and irritates my throat so terribly that I’ve already bought a pack of cigarettes. Even though I smoked about 5 cigarettes in two months…

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Hello!
Probably there’s no big problem, my first thought is that your body is working out the gunk you vaped with the coil. However, there are a few things to pay attention to. You didn’t mention it, but I assume you bought pre-mixed liquid. That’s always a gamble, to some extent. Start mixing your own, use quality flavors, many shops sell these. If you need a brand, feel free to ask, I’ll help. You can buy PG and VG from Floravita, you can experiment with the ratios with them, I suggest 50-50, 60-40 VG dominance. You can buy nic boosters at tobacco shops, 18-20 strength, I’d start with a maximum 9 strength, you can easily bring it down to 6. There’s the Mixer on this page, where the calculator even spits out the quantities. For starters, use pure, cooling-free flavors, or perhaps a tobacco flavor, and put nic salt aside for the first go. If you start vaping 20mg, it’s about twice as strong as with the coil, but you don’t feel it because the throat hit is softer.

In short. It matters what you inhale into your lungs here too!

If you have any questions, ask, we’ll help!

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Thanks a lot! I’m currently between 8-12mg, which completely corresponded to a maximum of 100-250 puffs per day. Yes, I was smoking pre-mixed liquids, mainly Pulp and Liquideo. The 50-50 was undoubtedly better than Pulp’s 70pg liquids, but it’s still surreal that I consumed Pulp’s peach liquid in 3 days without any symptoms, while 4 ml of Liquideo Framboyz in 4 days feels like being shot with buckshot in my throat. The idea of quality aromas sounds extremely good, but I really don’t know if I should even dare to try it. It would be simpler if I could see exactly what irritates me so much, but as I said, completely different flavors cause completely different symptoms… Oh, and because of this, I also canceled two Christmas parties, thinking I shouldn’t infect anyone, while the same thing has been happening for 3-4 days… Lo and behold, I bought a pack of cigarettes, smoked 2 sticks right away, and my throat doesn’t feel scratchy at all, it wasn’t irritated.

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Don’t buy it… in the meantime, rather suck on something flavorless.

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It would be nice, but I don’t have a spare atomizer/coil. This last one is ruined by the raspberry liquid. I only have about 3 ml of 50/50 20mg nicotine booster left, and I can’t do much with that without an atomizer/coil. It would be easy and nice if it were that simple. But unfortunately, I don’t have 2.5-3 hours a day to travel to the 15th district to magically find an atomizer/coil. I’m going home for Christmas, then I’ll hopefully be able to buy, if nothing else, a pod for the Aspire Vilter 2, and new liquids. Unfortunately, I’m extremely tired of not finding a nic booster in even 1 out of 10 vape shops I’ve asked, and having to maneuver as if I were trying to obtain crack cocaine. :slight_smile:

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There are indeed many helpful fellow vapers here. You might even find a solution for the atomizer or other device, tank issues… countless cases prove that the solution can even be nearby, but if not, MPL works with 1-2 day shipping throughout the country… just don’t go back to cigarettes…

Stay strong and enjoy delicious, symptom-free vapors :heart:

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Thank you! Plan B has been found, but unfortunately, I don’t have many choices until Sunday; after 3 coils, I report, irritation 0, scratchy, throat-tickling sensation 0. It’s certain that the problem is with the individual flavorings. A kind fellow vaper guided me on where I can order flavorings, VG, and PG. Unfortunately, I live here as a student; if I travel home on Sunday, the earliest I can buy an atomizer and a liquid that won’t irritate me is Monday. Thankfully, back home in my town of 10,000 people, there are two vape shops, so I won’t have a desperate need for them like heroin. For the new year, I will order the necessary ingredients, and mixing will begin!

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Hi, let me tell you, if you’ve just switched from smoking, or if you’re still smoking, the vape irritates and causes a scratchy throat because the poor mucous membrane doesn’t even know which attack to fend off at that time :slightly_smiling_face: It might take two weeks of being cigarette-free for it to stop scratching :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’ve been vaping since the beginning of November. In the first two weeks, a cigarette here and there still slipped in. Now I have to be honest: since then, an occasional combustible product has slipped in, but only a fraction of it was tobacco (<20%). :slight_smile:

I haven’t perceived any correlation with this or with alcohol. That’s why it was strange that while, for example, I finished the peachy Pulp pg heavy liquid in 3-4 days, the liquideo framboyz, with practically half to a third of the consumption, produced symptoms that I had never experienced before.

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About a year and a half ago, analog (smoking) became zero, and only electric (vaping). Unfortunately, I started with manó, then pod and nicsó, then I started mixing and the flavors didn’t come through, then Barjuice longfills gave the taste that manó had, but there were flavors, especially the tobacco ones, that wrecked my throat, I couldn’t vape them even though they were very tasty…. Time passed, I got a mod, I got a rebuildable atomizer, I was sick a lot (upper respiratory infections) almost constantly… but a few months ago, everything was cut in half… I’m not sick, flavors don’t irritate me, in fact, even the homemade mixed liquids have flavor. Would I have been detoxing for this long? I don’t know! But don’t give up either!

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It’s not the same for everyone, that’s for sure :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thank you for the encouragement! Relapsing is absolutely not an option for me. However, I don’t have many choices right now. For example, with Pulp caramel, all sorts of my mucus (yellow, bloody) thickened tenfold. Because of this, I stopped, and then after 2-3 days it completely disappeared with another liquid. Now, under the impression that I should avoid sweet, creamy things, I naively vaped the raspberry one for another 1-2 days after the throat irritation. Hopefully, this will also clear up within 1-2 days, although it is undoubtedly frustrating that 300 puffs in 3 days cause such irritation from this, which I never even approached during many years of chain-smoking.

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Actually, the whole thing will be a matter of patience :wink:. By the way, intense caramels are capable of causing a similar effect later on too, I think this is due to their flavor profile.

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I consider myself a patient person, but I don’t tolerate it much when something burns my throat like a rusty metal brush… for reasons unknown to me… let’s see what these DIY mixed concoctions can do.

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I haven’t ruled out that the specific juice you’re trying is problematic anyway. It will become clear if you try other types. :+1: Why can juice cause a scratchy throat or sting? Terribly bad flavoring (extremely rare for it to be that bad), severely exaggerated nicotine (I’d almost rule this out), spoiled or faulty base (there’s a chance), inflamed mucous membrane (heals in days, lots of fluids, and only vape, no cigs).

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Upon checking, this is what the label says: contains (E)-1-(2,6,6-trimethyl-1,3 cyclohexadien-1-yl)-2-buten-1. It can cause an allergic reaction… it wouldn’t be a classic allergic reaction, but is it possible that the previously irritating caramel also contained this compound?

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We cannot rule it out. The chance is not too great that two different products from two manufacturers would trigger the same thing :roll_eyes::thinking: unless there is an inflammatory process in the background, or a developing cold, other lung irritation (my electroplating plant colleagues…) or something similar.

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It doesn’t cause the same thing, it caused, however, a similar level of irritation, elsewhere. According to AI, there is a high chance that both liquids contained these alpha and beta ionones, and that’s why they caused problems…:face_with_spiral_eyes::flushed_face:

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