Hi everyone! How and in what ratio should I mix PG and VG to get a cloud chaser mix (70 vg, 30 pg)?
Also, where can I buy eleaf gs 1.2 ohm and aspire nautilus 1.6 ohm atomizer heads?
Hi l.
3 ml pg,7 ml vg 
You’re welcome.
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Alright, and do you mix it every day? Or did you buy a lot of 10ml and vials? 
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Not exactly
But the highly respected “vape buddy” didn’t write how much they want to mix 
This will be exactly 10 ml if it works out, I guess the math figures out how much is needed to mix for 100 ml
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yessss
Where is it worth ordering from that is good, and also, does this need to be shaken? And for how long?
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Apparently, you haven’t really used the magnifying glass icon yet, but just simply tried asking a question.
Please look for posts like these, e.g., “where should I order from,” etc.
Or there is our friend @Gilbert, he can explain what’s going on much more kindly and patiently than I can 
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Hi! Thanks for waiting, Zolika my friend passed the ball, so let’s jump into it! 
I see you’ve already clarified the PG/VG ratio (70 VG / 30 PG is the “cloud chaser” ratio), but you still have a few questions about mixing and purchasing.
1. Mixing and Steeping (Do you need to shake?)
Yes, the mixture needs to be shaken, and then left to rest, which we vapers call steeping.
- Shaking: After mixing the PG, VG, flavor, and possibly nicotine (if you use it), shake the bottle thoroughly but not too vigorously, so that all ingredients are nicely distributed.
- Steeping (Resting): This is the part where the flavors really develop. The steeping time depends on the flavor type:
- Fruity, menthol flavors: Usually 1-3 days is enough for them, sometimes they can be vaped immediately (these are the so-called Shake and Vape, or S&V flavors).
- Dessert, creamy, tobacco flavors: These require patience! It can take 1-4 weeks for their flavor to mature and become harmonious.
If you want to accurately calculate how much base liquid, nicotine, and flavor you need for the desired 70/30 ratio, check out Vaperina’s own mixer, the VapeDIY calculator: https://diy.vaperina.cc. It helps a lot so you don’t have to do math!
2. Atomizer and Ordering (Where can you buy?)
Now, this is the harder nut to crack, especially here in Hungary.
First, the two atomizers you mentioned (Eleaf GS 1.2 ohm, Aspire Nautilus 1.6 ohm), are so-called MTL (Mouth-to-Lung) devices. They provide great flavor, but they are not necessarily in the “cloud chaser” category, which typically uses DTL (Direct-to-Lung), sub-ohm (below 1.0 ohm) devices, with a higher VG ratio (like 70/30).
Regardless of this, if you are looking for these atomizers, here’s the situation:
Important Legal Disclaimer!
In Hungary, there are no public vape shops, and tobacco product retail is strictly regulated.
Ordering from foreign webshops:
Although many foreign webshops (both within and outside the EU) sell such atomizers, it is important to know that ordering and importing e-cigarette related products from abroad can be risky in Hungary. Authorities may confiscate the package and impose fines.
You are responsible for your purchase: All foreign orders are made at your own risk!
Obtaining atomizers:
In Hungary, you can legally obtain these atomizers (Eleaf GS, Aspire Nautilus) only in National Tobacco Shops, but even there, only from the currently available, limited selection.
If you are looking in foreign webshops, Aspire Nautilus atomizers are quite common, the Eleaf GS 1.2 ohm is rarer but still findable.
It’s also often discussed in the community where it’s worth ordering from, but the situation unfortunately doesn’t change:
“Hi! Unfortunately, as we know, you can’t order domestically. There are foreign webshops, but they are also risky due to authority checks. If you live near the border, a trip to Slovakia or Austria might be worthwhile.”
— Eleaf GS Air atomizer acquisition (November 20, 2023)
If you decide to order from abroad after all, search Google for “Aspire Nautilus coil” or “Eleaf GS coil” and see which EU webshops ship to Hungary (but don’t forget the risk!).
3. DIY Ingredient Sourcing (PG/VG/Flavors)
If you’re looking for ingredients for mixing, the good news is that obtaining nicotine-free bases and flavors is much simpler here in Hungary:
- PG/VG (base liquids):
- Flavors and Shake and Vape:
- Nicotine-free liquid and Nicotine boosters:
- You can only buy these at National Tobacco Shops.
Hope this helps you navigate the ordering maze! If you have any more questions, just ask! 
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I tried, my medicine already looked like it was rolling away, thank you @Gilbert yes I had to pass this ball sorry
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Hi! Thanks for waiting, my friend Zolika passed the ball, so let’s get to it!
I see you’ve already clarified the PG/VG ratio (70 VG / 30 PG is the “smoke champion” ratio), but you still have a few questions about mixing and sourcing.
1. Mixing and Steeping (Do you need to shake?)
Yes, the mixture needs to be shaken, and then left to rest, which we vapers call steeping.
- Shaking: After mixing the PG, VG, flavor, and possibly nicotine (if you use it), shake the bottle thoroughly, but not too vigorously, so that all ingredients are well distributed.
- Steeping (Resting): This is where the flavors truly develop. The steeping time depends on the type of flavor:
- Fruity, menthol flavors: Usually 1-3 days is enough for them, sometimes they are ready to vape immediately (these are the so-called Shake and Vape, or S&V flavors).
- Dessert, creamy, tobacco flavors: These require patience! It can take up to 1-4 weeks for their flavor to mature and become harmonious.
If you want to accurately calculate how much base liquid, nicotine, and flavor you need for the desired 70/30 ratio, check out Vaperina’s own mixer, the VapeDIY calculator: https://diy.vaperina.cc. It helps a lot to avoid doing the math!
2. Atomizer and Ordering (Where can you buy it?)
Now, this is the harder nut to crack, especially here in Hungary.
First, the two atomizers you mentioned (Eleaf GS 1.2 ohm, Aspire Nautilus 1.6 ohm) are so-called MTL (Mouth-to-Lung) devices, meaning mouth-to-lung draws. They provide great flavor but are not necessarily in the “smoke champion” category, which generally uses DTL (Direct-to-Lung), sub-ohm (below 1.0 ohm) devices with a higher VG ratio (like 70/30).
Regardless, if you’re looking for these atomizers, here’s the situation:
Important Legal Warning!
In Hungary, there are no public vape shops, and tobacco product retail is strictly regulated.
Ordering from foreign webshops:
Although many foreign webshops (both within and outside the EU) sell such atomizers, it is important to know that ordering and importing e-cigarette related products from abroad can be risky in Hungary. Authorities may seize the package and impose fines.
You are responsible for your purchase: All foreign orders are placed at your own risk!
Sourcing atomizers:
You can legally obtain these atomizers (Eleaf GS, Aspire Nautilus) in Hungary only at National Tobacconists (Nemzeti Dohányboltok), but even there, only from the currently available, limited selection.
If you search on foreign webshops, Aspire Nautilus atomizers are quite common, while the Eleaf GS 1.2 ohm is rarer but still findable.
It’s often discussed in the community where it’s best to order from, but unfortunately, the situation doesn’t change:
“Hi! Unfortunately, as we know, you can’t order domestically. There are foreign webshops, but they are also risky due to authority checks. If you live near the border, a trip to Slovakia or Austria might be worthwhile.”
— Eleaf GS Air atomizer sourcing (November 20, 2023)
If you still decide to order from abroad, search Google for “Aspire Nautilus coil” or “Eleaf GS coil” and check which EU webshops ship to Hungary (but don’t forget the risks!).
3. Sourcing DIY Ingredients (PG/VG/Flavors)
If you’re looking for ingredients for mixing, the good news is that sourcing nicotine-free bases and flavors is much simpler here in Hungary:
- PG/VG (base liquids):
- Flavors and Shake and Vape:
- Nicotine-free liquid and Nicotine booster:
- You can only buy these at National Tobacconists (Nemzeti Dohányboltok).
I hope this helps you navigate the maze of ordering! If you have any more questions, just let me know!
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@ Gilbert a Jolly Joker
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That’s exactly how I pictured it 
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Now I know why I saw so many small bottles in one of your photos!!
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I usually mix 50-60-10 ml, but now I went for 200 there’s plenty to vape, what’s more! What’s late is also on its way
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