Megfelelés a jogszabályoknak

Cigarettes could never be ordered online, but on the way home from Germany, we easily brought over 2 cartons of 29-stick Pall Mall for personal use.

By the way, I looked into the attachment and in our case, the essence is contained in the following:

The shipment is not for commercial purposes if a private individual transports excise goods purchased and released for free circulation in one Member State to another Member State for their own use. In order to determine whether the excise goods are for the private individual’s own use, the state tax and customs authority examines the following criteria: *

a) whether the private individual holds the permit according to this law or has requested registration based on this law;
b) the reason for possession;
c) the place of possession of the excise goods or the method of transport;
d) all documents relating to the excise goods;
e) the nature of the excise goods;
f) whether the excise goods exceed the quantity referred to in paragraph (4).

Source: Jöt. (új) - 2016. évi LXVIII. törvény a jövedéki adóról - Hatályos Jogszabályok Gyűjteménye - Wolters Kluwer - All rights reserved!

And here I would like to draw attention to the documents relating to the product, as well as the nature of the product! Because the nature of the product can also refer to its legal nature. And the part about the private individual transports himself to another Member State also suggests that this does not apply to import, but to export. At least, that’s how I interpret it.

And I found one more important part:

A shipment carried out from within the country, from a domestic sender as referred to in paragraph (1a), via another Member State, to a domestic recipient as referred to in paragraph (1b) shall be considered a commercial shipment.

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Which means that you cannot even send it indirectly, although I don’t know if that is feasible at all.

But generally speaking, these laws primarily concern businesses, and private individuals are only mentioned incidentally. The registration mentioned above, if I’m not mistaken, relates to or is necessary because if you are caught at the border with 800 disposable vapes (or whatever), the inspectors will see in the registry that you received a permit for them, and there’s a good chance that the permit will come with a bill on which you can pay the excise duty on the imported goods, even for 800 items. Oh, and of course, until you pay, there’s no permit…

One thing is for sure, these regulations make no sense whatsoever…

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I don’t know if I’d feel like it!? :saluting_face: :grimacing:

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…with a chair leg…

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Think of it like the evening after the silver wedding anniversary. This is not a matter of preference,

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Incidentally, it’s an interesting point that if we look at how many illnesses and deaths excessive alcohol consumption causes, I think we would get similar data to what smoking causes. Yet, nobody wants to ban alcoholic beverages…

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I’m past that already. :saluting_face:

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And yet, it almost became a shady shop back then. :grimacing:

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This national attitude towards alcohol is so typically Hungarian anyway…:roll_eyes:
(not to mention the country-rotting nonsense called ‘Ner Village Pubs 3 Million’…:tangerine::zebra:)

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Obviously, because the next day they would already be going to tear down parliament with scythes and tractors… :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Do you think that generation isn’t too worn out yet? Let’s say it’s sad that they would mobilize for this cause…

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I agree, they are not very useful either… :slightly_smiling_face:

By the way, the topic of importing for personal use has been discussed here many times, 300 ml is valid, for example, I also wrote a post pasting the text of the regulation

I guess this is why (also) you were able to bring PallMall back, although I don’t know what the limit or the wording of the regulation was then.

And what @Gambler wrote about the NAV phone information regarding disposable devices is very strange (since they are forbidden to be sold even in black market shops and are persecuted with fire and iron) but it is indeed in there (point k) :thinking:

j) 300 milliliters for e-liquid, and
k) * 800 pieces for single-use products of the new tobacco categories, 300 milliliters for their liquid,
l) * 500 grams for smokeless tobacco products,
m) * 500 grams for nicotine-containing products for smoking replacement,
n) * 800 pieces for heated products.
Source: Jöt. (új) - 2016. évi LXVIII. törvény a jövedéki adóról - Hatályos Jogszabályok Gyűjteménye - Wolters Kluwer - All rights reserved!

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Well, I don’t know, I was just trying to imply that if you tried to ban alcohol and cigarettes, they’d surely wreck parliament and its surroundings during protests the next day, because masses would definitely mobilize for that…

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Because for 10 thousand times worse filth/nastiness, not even one has been beaten to death yet :cry: but it’s possible… moreover, I wouldn’t be surprised by it.

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Nothing would happen, we are cowards.

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Casually I’d put my crossed legs on the table and just laugh at them because I don’t consume either of them :smiling_face: boom :grin:

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I entertained the thought, what if they banned Turkish and other soap operas, and also “csí mami”, for those approximately two and a half million pensioners…
Even recently, rainbows managed to bring masses to the streets.

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Or the biggest harmful passion is work :joy::rofl:

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What do you mean, ‘Suleiman’ is over?! Reverse it!
It caused trouble.

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Internet tax? That was something else :winking_face_with_tongue: yet many people were on that bridge.

They probably didn’t introduce it because many people protested against it :joy::joy::joy::joy:

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Visit fee…

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