# Switching/Dilemma **URL:** \ **Category:** Kérdések\ **Tags:** általános-kérdés\ **Created:** [November 18, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://vaperina.cc/t/atszokas-dilemma/70187 "2025-11-18T20:27:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![Gilbert](https://cdn.vaperina.cc/user_avatar/vaperina.cc/gilbert/32/103641_2.png) [@Gilbert](https://vaperina.cc/u/Gilbert)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://vaperina.cc/t/atszokas-dilemma/70187/3 "2025-11-18T21:33:29Z")
> **Thinking...** > > **Search** > 52 results for ‘transition cost [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26)’ Hi Funky! Well, you’re right, you’re in a big dilemma, but don’t worry, it’s completely normal at the beginning! I, [Gilbert](https://vaperina.cc/t/48188?silent=true), Vaperina’s pro vape assistant, am here precisely to help you navigate the vaping jungle. 😎 AsdasTheOne has already given the most important tip: the **mod+tank combo with your own juice** is the most cost-effective, and of course, the community is super helpful too! Let’s see what else I can gather for you regarding your questions, because it’s really good to get things sorted out. ### 1. What kind of device would give a similar experience to disposable junk? First of all, it’s great that you want to quit disposables, because they are **illegal** here (e.g., Elf Bar, Poco Bar), and in the long run, they are much more expensive than a regular, refillable kit. Disposable e-cigarettes generally provide a **[DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26) (Direct-to-Lung)** or **[RDL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#rdl-27) (Restricted Direct-to-Lung)** experience, which means you inhale directly into your lungs, like a hookah. Since you’re used to this, a [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26)/[RDL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#rdl-27) kit will likely be the most satisfying. **There are two main directions in terms of [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26)/[RDL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#rdl-27) kits:** 1. **Pod System (Ideal for beginners):** 2. **Mod + Tank (Intermediate/Advanced):** The most **cost-effective** solution is what AsdasTheOne also mentioned: **Mod + Rebuildable Tank ([RTA](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#rta-30))**. Here you only need to buy wire and cotton, which is a negligible cost compared to pre-made atomizers. ### 2. What would be cost-effective in terms of value for money? As you mentioned, a disposable costs 8000 Ft/week, which is around **32,000 Ft per month**. In contrast, self-mixed liquid and a good [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26) kit can be done for **a few thousand Forints per month** after you’ve bought the starter kit. **The secret to cost-effectiveness is mixing your own:** - For **[DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26) (Direct-to-Lung) use**, a lot of liquid is consumed, so **Shake and Vape** or **Longfill** are the best choices. These are pre-mixed flavors to which you only need to add base (PG/VG) and nicotine. - **Cost Estimate (Very rough [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26) estimate):** - **Liquid:** A 100 ml Shake and Vape (flavor + base + nicotine) costs about 4000-6000 Ft. If a [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26) kit consumes 100 ml per week, that’s still only 16,000-24,000 Ft per month. - **Atomizer/[Coil](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#coil-16):** If you use a tank with pre-made coils, one [coil](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#coil-16) lasts 1-2 weeks (approx. 1500-3000 Ft/piece), which is 6000-12,000 Ft per month. - **Rebuildable Tank ([RTA](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#rta-30)):** If you switch to a rebuildable tank, a roll of wire and a pack of cotton will last for several months and cost a few thousand Forints. **This is the cheapest in the long run!** Check out some older but still relevant topics about costs and switching: - **[The price of monthly consumption](https://vaperina.cc/t/a-havi-fogyasztas-ara/43163)** (Oct 6, 2024) – Here members calculate how much their monthly ammo costs. - **[It’s still cheaper than smoking, even if it’s expensive](https://vaperina.cc/t/akkor-is-olcsobb-a-dohanyzasnal-ha-draga/3402)** (Jan 2, 2021) – Although old, the basic principle still holds true today: vaping is cheaper than cigarettes. ### 3. Nic Salt or Short/Longfill? This question likely refers to the **type of liquid** : - **Nic Salt (Nicotine Salt):** This is generally for [MTL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#mtl-25) (Mouth-to-Lung) devices and allows for higher nicotine levels without harshness. We don’t really use this in [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26) because the large amount of vapor would lead to excessive nicotine intake, causing a bad experience. - **Shortfill/Longfill (Flavor concentrates):** These are the most popular for [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26)/[RDL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#rdl-27) use. As I wrote above, this is the most cost-effective because you mix the base and nicotine yourself with the flavor. **For [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26), I almost certainly recommend the Shortfill/Longfill + Nicotine Booster (regular nicotine) combination!** If you get into mixing, we have a great tool, the **[VapeDIY](https://diy.vaperina.cc) calculator**, which helps you set the desired nicotine level, VG/PG ratio, and final volume, and calculates how much of each to pour. It’s very useful! 👉 **[VapeDIY Calculator](https://diy.vaperina.cc)** ### In Summary: 1. **Device:** Look for a good **Mod + [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26)/[RDL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#rdl-27) Tank** kit. It can be a pre-made [coil](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#coil-16) tank to start, but in the long run, the **rebuildable tank ([RTA](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#rta-30))** is the winner for your wallet. 2. **Liquid:** **Longfill/Shortfill flavors + regular nicotine booster** for [DL](https://vaperina.cc/t/-/187?silent=true#dl-26). 3. **Cost:** After the initial investment in a starter kit (which might cost the same as a month of disposables), your monthly cost will drop to a fraction! If you have the budget, or already have a specific device in mind, drop a name, and we’ll see what I found about it here in the community! > “Vaperina has been helping the community for 6 years, advertisement-free, solely on community support. If you feel the work we do is useful, even a small contribution can help us remain independent! Thank you for your support! 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